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Par Laurent D'Apolito, Dernière modif avril 2011
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Thanks to wmcflameworks
Here below is an archive of his comments and his pictures (from ebay and blogs), and few other documents in case of a delete from the internet.
http://www.facebook.com/wmcflameworks

1/ Fisher Scientific bench burner for Scientific Flameworking
GLASS Blowing Flameworking Fisher Scientific
ALL Pre-Mix* Gas & OXY
Fantastic adjustable solid Ball mounting base
in Very Good condition and Hot!

Lampworkers Bench Burner, This is a most unusual rare unit! Read on:
This is a unit primarily for Hard glass and is a true cannon pre-mix*. See pic's 6 through 9
for its range with just city gas, and two 5 liter 02 generators. Excellent cond. not a Carlisle, Knight, or Bethlehem It's a late series FISHER Scientific model Multi-Flame
These were beautifully finished see the embossing on the polished tabs for gas/oxy/and beautiful and improved solid mounting platform.
This unit has low burn time as can be witnessed by the burner face closeup. All the ports are clear and the centerfire is perfect and brutally hot. Like a cutting torch!
Incredible all STEEL, BRASS casting, machining and valves,with Delron inserts for smooth paddle operation very hot with diverse flame possibilities.
SEE CLOSEUPS ENGRAVING ETC. THIS IS MACHING NOT SEEN ON MODERN VERSIONS OF SAME DESIGN. The base is heavy and stable it has a tensioned Ball & socket See pic's 7,8 It really works! I feel these are so superior Just tighten the 1/2 nut burner STAYS at any angle.
None of these beautiful finish features exist on most any burners made today. This is skillfull casting and machining that is a lost skill and would simply be to expensive to replicate! Essentially you are now paying many K for units and not getting a lamp near as neat as most anything from the past quality manufactures.

* This is not the flame type of a cc or bethlehem The large fires on those units is a surface mix wherein briefly described, the oxy and gas are delivered to the face in seperate tubes and mix after lieving the torch head. On the Carlisle the centerfire is pre-mix or the two fire sources are mixed in the body and come to the face and are lit out of the same tubes.Both flames in this cannon are pre-mix.
BOTH designs have advantages. The surface mix is usually thought to need more volume it sort of embraces the piece in flame.
The pre-mix more drives the flame into the glass. Better suited to pyrex and certainly quartz. Yet, this design keeps the body cooler and if correct flame maintained the tip does not load or soot up and lasts a lot longer! This is my preference for most applications. I'm quite opinionated about issues of torch design, burner efficiency but here I'm just presenting a good unit for sale.
To operate this torch which is simply a excercise in smoothness. Start with the paddles centered. Lifting any degrees introduces oxy/gas into the big outer burner tubes and very large HOT fire is attainable. NOW, drop the handles below center line and the highly adjustable pilot (see pic 9) kicks in the centerfire which as seen also has a much wider range of operation than most burners. You can mix the combos of fuels for various oxidising and warming in types of flame as in last pictures. This unit is amazingly fuel/pressure friendly The results your seeing are with just TWO 5 liter 02 generators AND astoundingly Philadelphia city low pressure gas.

This design has been used for years and years some say late 40's Many makers have come and gone this I am quite certain Fisher, Centco and Sargent was probably the largest for 20 years, passing the torch (wordplay) to Carlisle and Knight. The workmanship on these is impeccable as I hope my meager photos show. Very hot and amazingly adjustable.

2/ FISHER SCIENTIFIC TURRET BURNER MODEL SELECT A JET Burner 5 Jet ALL premix

This is An American made 70's FISHER unit not a Jennings Lesco Burner or a JENCON's Rotajet of which I've imported and sold several!

There is a forced comparison,the similar name,Rotating Head and UK manufacture! But,they are quite different in function and adjustment.
In over 200 hrs of work time on one I've never even had to clean a tip though realize I use nat gas not propane) Being premix they burn forward of the actual orifice If your getting carbon buildup or metal breakdown You must re-adjust your pressure. Easy on the two upgraded NEW Whitey needle valves. Usually these had 3 tiny headed to tight early series valves. The body is plumbed and threaded for a 3rd extra Gas valve. this could be used for a pilot or different gas not really necesary though. I'm supplying about 3' of quality tubing with "b" fittings the gas reverse threaded.These are with 5 Tips with even graduation about 25% per click to next size.
THIS IS NOT A BURNER FOR EVERYONE!
First off this is all pre-mix and as such should be used with flashback protectors.
All units can. You just aren't told so.

On this unit you set your pressure from main lines pretty low. These are real efficient. Takes a bit to get the hang of but try lighting #4 and adjusting as would any torch. Want more kill the 02 and rotate turret till clicks loudly and "feels" to next tip bring back the oxy and probably more gas. Works great with a foot pedal. The Tips are staggered as in a med. then an Xsmall, larger then another small smaller at first this made NO sense But then it hit me Yankee ingenuity from large to small instead of turning through the whole range! In a few days you'll be doing this without loosing your rhythm. All is done internally Purely through precise milling and internal ports. No gears to wear or lines to melt.

*PICTURES OF THE DIFFERENT SETTINGS four through 7 are Jets 1,2,3,5, four is an even step up
Yep, I know your thought, solder on or thread a multi orifice national or that type of Tip, It WORKS, have seen pictures, its a tight fit but I'll be experimenting in following months.
I've as Torchkid been using predominantly Turrets for the last three years. I've now secured a Euro contact and will be importing, re-furbishing and selling as they trickle In.
These TYPES Of torches throughout Europe are as popular as a cc is here. I admit to paying a lot for first one because it looked so cool!
Actually, I am seen as in Last Picture with various turret Burners on F-book chat forums etc.
I am bucking the current trend in larger flame surface burners but I'm Torchkid for over 35 years have been playing experimenting!
You've seen these occasionally here on the bay in various states or listed in England where lack of security AND absorbent shipping cost make bidding unrealistic!
I've secured a reliable contact who's warehousing glass working equipment I'm buying stock for lower shipping with service parts etc.
So, Now I'm in a position to endorse what I've found to be a vastly superior Burner for hard Kg glass as I can supply that to which I'm a convert! At least in up to 11mm rod and 15 mm cladded tubing. More mass than that and I think a cannon burner still the choice of champions.
These are fun. But have a short learning curve Essentially, they are premix (searingly hot) and VERY precise in sizes 1-4 with #5 a bit more bushy
Most important is "torch Anatomy" a WMc coined phrase, briefly it means how friggin comfortable to work at! Can you get your hand close? Under it, over top etc.These are comfort aces! you can rest your wrist where others would burn you, that entire telescope looking turret has nothing to snag on and never gets even warm, GET IT? Example: I just sold my Arnold 40mm Zenit was the most adjustable from tiny to HUGe flame exact in adjustment BUT, so cumbersome, so HOT even to get hands near, yeh, great Industry torch as in I'll be getting paid to work something that uncomfortable!
This type of burner is WAY more efficient in making BTU's with just 2 generators and natural city gas than anything else I've used or contrapted. In fact I think its probably to hot for soft glass!
Basically, you select #3 or 4 jet introduce a moderate amount of gas, light, bring in the oxy to desired heat range when desiring a larger or smaller sz. Jet cut back the oxy if high pressure if low
simply turn the turret (stays totally cool) and bring back the oxy to the new setting I now have everything so balanced and I simply rotate and work!
After a week I did this subconsciously. I now use a pedal which is even more convenient. Thing is jets 2,3, and 4 have a wide range of operation 2-3x increasing decreasing they're sz. Depending. I described 3 through 5 above #1 is a very well piloted searing minuscule exacting flame such as none I've ever experienced It will spoil you for finite detail work.
These run on nat. gas or propane and are quite friendly to low percentage

3/ SELECTRO, five Nozzle Turret Bench Torch

Burner a FLAME SELECTRO,FIVE Nozzle Turret Head Pre-mix professional Lampworking Bench Torch, American Made (Usually labeled Fisher "SELECTRA JET")

Excellent* condition and very hot!

The American version of the UK made Rotajet of which I've imported and sold several!
There is a forced comparison, the similar name, Rotating Head But, they are quite different in function and adjustment.
Probably over 20 years old and were even then quite scarce. In over 100 hrs of work time I've never even had to clean a tip though realize I use nat gas not propane)
THIS IS NOT A BURNER FOR EVERYONE!
First ofF this is all pre-mix and as such should be used with flashback protectors. As this unit has much more adjustment It can be made to backfire.
All units can. You just aren't told so.
PICTURES OF THE DIFFERENT SETTINGS Jet 1,2,3,4,5,
* I've had comments that in the pictures unit looks brand new! Well , its immaculate, after about a month the tips turn darker brown. I simply don't throw that word "Mint cond" around it's new or its not! Lets say this unit is a 9.5 (on a 1-10 scale) and you'd be pleased IF this is your type of unit

Yep, I know your thought solder on or thread a multi orifice national or that type of Tip and It WORKS, have seen pictures, a rather famous Southern States European Sculptor is pictured ofeten with this very unit modifies as such.
I've as Torchkid been using predominantly Turrets for the last three years. I've now secured a Euro contact and will be importing, re-furbishing and selling as they trickle In.
These TYPES Of torches throughout Europe are as popular as a cc is here. I admit to paying a lot for first one because it looked so cool!
Actually, I am seen pictured with various turret Burners on F-book chat forums etc.
I am bucking the current trend in larger flame surface burners but I'm Torchkid for over 35 years!
You've seen them occasionally here on the bay in various states or listed in England where lack of security AND absorbent shipping cost make bidding unrealistic!
So, Now I'm in a position to endorse what I've found to be a vastly superior Burner for hard Kg glass as I can supply that to which I'm a convert! At least in up to 11mm rod and 15 mm cladded tubing. More mass than that and I think a cannon burner still the choice of champions.
These are fun. But have a short learning curve Essentially, they are premix (searingly hot) and VERY precise in sizes 1-4 with #5 a bit more bushy
Most important is "torch Anatomy" a WMc coined phrase briefly it means how friggin comfortable to work at! Can you get your hand close? Under it, over top etc.These are comfort aces! you can rest your wrist where others would burn you, that entire telescope looking turret has nothing to snag on GET IT? Example: I just sold my Arnold 40mm Zenit was the most adjustable from tiny to HUGe flame exact in adjustment BUT, so cumbersome so HOT even to get hands near yeh, great Industry torch as in I'll be getting paid to work something that uncomfortable!
This type of burner is WAY more efficient in making BTU's with just 2 generators and natural city gas than anything else I've used or contrapted. In fact I think its probably to hot for soft glass!
Basically, you select #3 or 4 jet introduce a moderate amount of gas, light, bring in the oxy to desired heat range when desiring a larger or smaller sz. Jet cut back the oxy
simply turn the turret (stays totally cool) bring back the oxy to the new setting!
After a week I did this subconsciously. I now use a pedal which is even more convenient. Thing is jets 2,3, and 4 have a wide range of operation 2x increasing decreasing they're sz. Depending on fuel pressure etc. I described 4 and 5 above #1 searing miniscule exacting flame. It will spoil you for finite detail work. These run on nat. gas or propane or both
SEE HAS TWO GAS INLETS I use one as a continual low pressure for pilot and tiny work the other inlet connected to a pedal running higher pressure. But, would seem to allow for different fuels (propane nat gas) with proper precautions.
All these types of units are very low pressure friendly and low % 02 (can push a generator high even after needing a core build) Being totally pre mix
you cannot use air pressure though.

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